Coffee Talk
Welcome to Elly's Coffee Talk, where every day we feature some of the comments we get from Lynn's devoted readers, and occasionally we'll share a message from Lynn herself. If you have a comment or a story that relates to FBorFW, please share it by clicking on "Spill Your Beans Here"!


Friday July 4, 2008
July 4, 2008


I love FBoFW, but today's reprint from...gosh I don't even know how many years ago just rubbed me the wrong way. What I love about FBoFW is how real it is. And I don't know about you...but the small boys I know won't let anyone do anything for them that they can't do themselves. It's something you notice as a parent as the difference between boys and girls. Not unequal, just different. And that's why I didn't find this re-print cartoon to be worthy of remembering. It doesn't stirke me as true to life, or as representing a scene that I can relate to. Maybe it's a question of craft.... I like the first two panels...but don't get the second two...

Anonymous Canadian fan


I've always read fbofw. Now that I live in Europe, it's my little dose of "back home" every morning and I cherish it.

Liz is the one I most identify with - though as I step across the same portals of adulthood, I'm relating more and more to Elly.

In a way then, I guess it's all coming full circle. I want the happy ending for Liz (and April and Meredith and Robin...) but I'm finding it a real delight to see the old strips too.

Lynn, I hope you enjoy your retirement! You and your team have brought countless people alot of pleasure over the years.

Audrey, Scotland


I'm hoping that the constant re-runs might mean that Lynn is re-thinking the Lizanthony wedding. Marrying someone because you've known him all his life and your parents like him is not a good reason, if it's the only reason and it seems to be.

She doesn't seem to love him. Liz started worrying as young as age 10 or 11 that she would never have a boyfriend, because I think a couple of her friends did. She thought there was something wrong with her that she didn't have a boyfriend.

Anthony came along, and now Liz had her boyfriend. They broke up and got back together a couple times through the end of high school, but in looking back over the strips concerning their relationship, Liz never seems to have been particularly excited about him. But in high school, it's much easier for a girl to have a boyfriend to go to dances, parties, etc. with. But that's high school.

In college and after it seemed like Liz only thought of Anthony when she had broken up with one of her boyfriends, and again it seemed to be that he was her fall-back guy, the one she could always go back to when everyone else had gone, but that she wasn't that excited about him.

Elly and John kept talking him up to her and telling her how great she was and hinting they should get back together, right up to the time Anthony got engaged to Therese.

Liz still seems to be someone who feels if she doesn't have a boyfriend/partner/husband, there's something wrong and incomplete about her life. She's still young by 2000's standards---it would be nice to see her develop a backbone and say that Anthony isn't the one for me, I'm going to go it alone for a little while until I find out what I want and who I am, besides someone who wants to have a husband.

Why couldn't she, when she got home after the engagement and started to text her friends about it, have been thinking about how happy she was (it could have been done in a non-treacly way!) instead of thinking it's payback time because she was in a couple of their weddings. Then there was the comment to Warren about "the token that says I'm taken".

She just sounds like someone who is relieved to be getting married to someone who is reasonably OK, not a criminal or sociopath, because otherwise she would be an old maid, which seems like a very 1950's attitude and not befitting someone who's minor in college was women's studies.

If Liz is married she won't have to go to family gatherings alone. She won't have unfortunately broken up with someone near New Year's so that she has to get a gay friend to escort her to the party when he'd probably rather be with his boyfriend/partner.

Anthony won't have to raise Francoise alone, and since he seems to have no friends (as opposed to people who gush to others about how great Anthony is, but probably find him too boring to actually talk to), he will have an adult to hang out with. Of course he's the one that wanted a child and pressured Therese into having her, when she didn't want kids. But being a single dad is hard; might as well marry someone to help out.

If Liz and Anthony are in love and enjoy each other's company (as opposed to making a marriage of convenience which this is looking more and more like), couldn't they at least show it a little bit? All they seem to show is relief that they're no longer alone. They don't have to be overly gushy, just show some mild endearments occastionally. They never even seem to laugh or have fun together. They enjoy being with Francie, but they don't seem to enjoy being with each other that much.

Also if the idea was to wear Grandma Marian's gown and get married while Grandpa Jim is still around so he can see her in it, what's the idea of modernizing said gown beyond all recognition? Liz isn't so darned stylish and fashion-forward otherwise--a wedding gown with sleeves wouldn't look too out of place on her! (As long as the sleeves didn't have holes in them from age or something.)

Norah, Seattle WA

I'm loving the "retro" strips with a young Michael - possibly because I have a 2 1/2 year old son and it is giving me an indication of what lies ahead in the next 6 months-1 year!

Love all the FBFW strips and keeping up with what Liz and Anthony are getting up to.

Charlotte B, West Vancouver


I've got to throw in my two cents about the recent rerun strips with Michael as a child.

First of all, I don't believe these strips are from a back-to-back period. These are some "classic" strips taken from different years. I'm sure there are stories leading up to some of the events we've been reading about, so we all should keep that in mind.

Second, Michael is the first child... things are always different with your first. You can't prepare yourself for what a young boy does... you just have to go with it. Obviously Lynn has created a family that has learned over the years. John and Elly grew as parents as Liz and April came into the picture.

Third, I wonder why so many people think Michael is a brat. Sure, he did some interesting things in the strip, but most boys are like that. I can remember getting into trouble for things that I knew better about... but hey, I was a kid!! We all have to learn someway.


Jim I, Bloomington Indiana


Lastly, I seem to recall reading that the strip would begin sliding into stretched timelines - we weren't staying exactly with the day-to-day events. I may be wrong on that, but perhaps we're going to see more of those stretches coming in... but I may be wrong about that.

Lynn, you keep doing what you're doing. You have no one to answer to except yourself. Don't let the negative comments take you down... you're awesome!

Thanks to the whole team, too!!

Jim I, Bloomington Indiana


I don't blame the kid for a minute; eat up all the yucky stuff as fast as you can and follow it with a great big gulp of milk. In fact, he should be rewarded with extra dessert.

Congratulations on portraying real life!

Karen, Cincinnati OH


Totally agree with Erin's assessment of Anthony in Thursday's Coffee Talk. Certainly hope during the reruns of Michael, where we only see his bratty side, that plans are being made for Elizabeth realizing how wrong Anthony would be for her. Of course, in real life, young women often make that type of mistake in their first marriage - equating passive/agressive manipulative, controlling men as safe and secure. As Therese learned the hard way, it is disasterous.

Marsha, Reno


Now I remember why I stopped reading for a while when Merrie was a baby. Every single frame depicted her as a brat, and at the time I had a baby in the house and I wondered why she never depicted Merrie as adorable! I guess old habits die hard, because apparently Mike is a brat too. It would be nice to see Elly relax and enjoy her children, but maybe people didnt do this in the olden days. I still wonder sometimes if people notice that Elly is unhappy and sometimes violent. Also, why why why did her nose get so big? I hope in the final strips that Elly's nose could get a little smaller, LOL She could maybe start using "nose down" or some rosacia cram, maybe she is an alcoholic and goes into rehab, because the nose growth is common for alcoholics! Yes, why didnt I notice this before. That would explain Ellys depression and inability to parent her kids properly, and nose growth!

Jane, California


I would like to thank Lynn for the storyline on Elizabeth and Anthony. Having read about them over the years, I find it refreshing to see them finally getting married. The fact that having a woman marry a single father is a testament to how the world is today. I am not and never have been a single parent but I want to Thank you Lynn for acknowledging all of the single parents in this world. Being a parent is hard work but it is doubly difficult to be a single parent. My sister was a single parent and she married a wonderful man. Thank you so much for telling their story.
I will miss reading the day to day storyline but I am looking forward to what is coming. All the best to you and Thank you!!

Nikki V, Corbeil ON


Hello Lynn, Hello Elly, as an aging Grammy raising a 14 yr. old grandson, the most relaxing time I have is reading FBOW. I've been going through the ups and downs with your family for years. always finding something to relate to. The relationships are so true to life you find yourself anticipating with every strip. Elizabeth's upcoming wedding and Grandpa Jim have me on pins lately. through the years you have shown us many characters, (never shy) you introduced us to Lawrence Poirier, you took us through Elizabeth's sexual harassment, the baby that was born with 6 fingers(Believe it or not my own brother Eric was born with 6 fingers on 1 hand). you've also taken many loved characters from us (just like life) Elly's Mom, Farley and now we know our Dear Jim is ready. Lynn it has been a roller coaster ride-and I love coasters!!!! Thank you- a fan for life Teresa

P.S. I just love Shiimsa

Teresa H, Florida present (born in Indiana)


Had to laugh at today's strip where Elly gets after young Michael for eating like a pig. Obviously her own table manners have deteriorated over the years because we readers have often commented on Elly's own messy eating style when she's just chowin' down!

Too funny!

Jill S, Lawrence KS


I felt compelled to comment on the new (or old, depending on how you look at it) content of the strip. FBofW has always been my favorite comic strip. I love that the characters get older and lives change and love the suspense and the usual "feel good" aspects of it. I've read it ever since I was a little kid (I'm 31 now). However, I must admit, I absolutely can't stand the format now with the past intermingled into the present. I get so upset every day when it is the old style rather than new. I feel like the family was mean to other back then, everyone is always just yelling at each other, I don't like the drawing style, and just have a bad feeling after reading. Please please please keep it current and the way it has been, I loved it.

Melanie S, Plymouth


Why must Elly and John constantly berate Michael for acting like a typical kid? Yes, discipline is important, but it seems like a lot of their frustration and annoyance comes from their expectations that he act like a miniature adult.
We all lose our cool, at times, as parents, but not every offense is deserving of being called a pig (7/3's strip), having the child's arm twisted (7/2's strip), being screamed at (7/1's strip), or being grabbed by the collar and forcibly shoved into his room (6/26 strip).
Elly and John have consistently been shown as overracting to minor infractions. If that was typical parenting of 25 years ago I'm begining to understand why today's young adults often lack respect and understanding of the older generation- because that older generation never even attempted to respect and understand them.
What goes around comes around.

Amber S, Dallas TX


Hi Lynn,

While I've loved your strip for many years, I too am among the crowd that doesn't like the re-runs.

I keep checking each morning in hopes that you will give us a new edition. This week was disappointing. It would be great if you could finish your stories with fewer interruptions from the past and retire the strip with a clean break.

One of the things that's so hard about your 'blended' format is that your characters have matured and deepened over the years. It's quite a jolt to go back to the 2 dimensional personalities of years past. The current (boring, predictable) run of a young Elly yelling at a young Michael is a good example. The modern versions of your characters are so much more interesting.

Good luck with the transitions coming up!

Carley H, Denver CO


Oh my gosh! I had forgotten what a handful Michael was. And so funny! I didn't think that I would enjoy the "reruns" because I love to find out what is going to happen next, but I am really enjoying them. Thanks for bringing back the good old days.

Anne M, Kissimmee FL



I have loved this comic strip for years. My daughter was born in April 1991 and is the same age as "April". Although my daughter has autism, I love watching April grow and experience her version of childhood. I am delighted with all the Patterson family and their practical, real, and loving relationships. But I am not as smitten with the baby Elizabeth and young Michael memories. The strip stands well enough without that time warp thrown in. Overall a joy to read.

Jill, Maryland


i have to say at frist i wasn't in to the old strips and didn't think i would like them the same way as the new ones but i was wrong they still have the same chram and are just as funny as the new ones.

Mike is right if you don't want to tatse it eat it fast that or take a drink after ever bit.elly really should be just happy that he's eating it after all it is liver!

Bridget Q, New Glasgow NS


Can I point out something with regards to the whole neverending "Anthony is boring" discussion?

One thing of note in my own life and marriage is the fact that my husband and I have common interests, and we can discuss things together. Granted, we tend to discuss video games, science fiction and comics, but we have been known to discuss current events. We get interested in our discussions and in each other, as we look each other and listen to each other.

So, looking at the Anthony and Liz relationship, I'm baffled. They don't discuss anything, they don't seem to have interests or hobbies, heck, they don't seem to be interested in each other. I'm not saying they should share my interests, but I'd like to see them have some interests. Don't these people have hobbies? Don't they go out to movies or plays? Museums?

Let's face it: yes, it's a comic strip. A story. That means we, the readers, should be interested and captivated by what's going on. I don't see what's so interesting about two people who don't ever seem to do anything, or talk to each other, or face each other. This doesn't mean we demand to see them skydiving or bungee jumping.

Liz W, Ottawa


I too have always loved the Pattersons, but must say that strip after strip/week after week of a young Elly dissatisfied and constantly angry with her children is very wearing! If there's humor, i don't see it. Surely she must feel some joy/fulfillment/contentment...something positive sometimes.

Pamela K, Boston MA


Though we all can understand how the young Ellie feels in being a young parent, it feels like she has nothing positive to say to the younger Michael. Can you show a few comic strips between the ones where she is always yelling to more supportive loving strips?

Robbin N, Houston TX


It seems obvious from the strip re-published on July 3 where the off-putting eating habits of the Pattersons come from; trying not to taste Elly's cooking. What's less obvious is why she cooks unpalatable slop: to please her idiot husband who's too busy thinking about his own comfort to realize or care that being forced to cook the same greasy, tasteless refuse night after night has destroyed his family's taste buds. In short, they've been brought down to his pathetic level.

Paul J, Saint John NB


As a mother of a son, now 12, I am thoroughly enjoying the old strips from when Michael was a mischievous young boy. As my son shares the name of Michael as well as some of some of Michael Patterson's antics, many of these "blasts from the past" have been clipped and are displayed on my bulletin board. Even my Michael has has laughed as he recognized his own past in them. Thank you, Lynn!

Elizabeth, Weaverville


As a rape survivor, I'm still flummoxed that Liz is marrying Anthony, who, having saved her from an attempted assault by Howard Bunt, took her to a remote area and dumped all of HIS problems on her.

Duh, Anthony. Take her to talk to the cops. The cops. And maybe an actual counselor, eh?

Anthony is supposed to have all this common sense, but I'm not seeing it. Indeed, during that crisis, he acted really stupidly. If Liz had been bruised, for example, photos of her bruises would be admissible evidence, as long as they were taken RIGHT AWAY.

Argh. So not impressed.

Annie O, Pennsylvania


I sorry you think that life can be melded into a 30 year period. Sorry to say this but you can't bring the past into the present. Good Luck.

Joseph D, Mtntop PA


UNCLE! I can't take anymore! I've read the strip since I got married and watched the Patterson's grow as did my own family. We're still growing and moving forward. And although it's nice to look back occasionally, life's about moving on. BTW ... it IS a big deal that Michael was sent to bed without supper. What did that teach him other than his Mom has a bad temper and can't deal with him in a positive manner?

Ruby, Ohio


hey lynn.

as for your reruns, its cool to see a time before i was born (im 20) and what was happening before april came along! as for one reader's comment about a "where are they now" strip in the future, maybe even return to having hte cahracters write letters on their current activities? i would hate to see life freeze for them. april is my favorite character, and i hope she becomes a rockstar! something surreal but something we can all be proud of. im a musician myself, and would love to see april succeed and be the eccentric but sensible young lady become the artist she wants to be...maybe in honor of grampa jim?

ah that would rule! hope you give that some thought. other than that, i love your work!

Anonymous reader


There are many times when I have bought the paper just to read your strip. My children are all the same age as yours(except I stopped at 3) so your words have always been so appropriate.
I have a lot of favorites but one really stands out and was displayed at the State Park where I worked summers, dealt with them picking up the trash unfortunately left by others.
Your characters are so human, but also so wise and funny too. Thank you and keep up the good work.

Carolyn C, originally Maine, now NH


Lynn: Just wanted to thank you for years of laughs AND, more importantly, the first link between my husband and I. When we met in 2001, we were both long time singles. Sitting and reading the comics on Sunday and sharing our laughs or wishes for future story lines was one of the first things we found as common ground. It let us know that we had similar outlooks on life and similar senses of humor.
Note to Liz: I was 38 when I got married for the first time and even I had excitement in my voice and actions. Is Anthony really the right choice or are you letting Lynn take you down that route for the readers?

Thanks for all of your work Lynn!

Erin R, Henrietta NY


Old or new, I love for Better or For Worse. I'm happy to take it anyway I can get it! I'm looking forward to seeing Lynn's new "more joyful" style.

I love it all!! Keep up the wonderful work.

Pinki M, Houston TX


FBOFW has been my favorite comic strip since it started in our newspaper decades ago. In a lot of ways my life has mirrored the Patterson's. My daughter is the same age as Elizabeth. I was a working mother who had to care for a husband, home and dogs. Now, after retirement and a 31-year marriage, I, too, am going through a divorce. I wonder what changes are coming with Lynn/Elly that I will also experience.

Sandy H, Indianapolis


I've been reading the strip since Michael and Elizabeth were small. While the nostalgia strips are funny and touching, please-- more of the plans for Elizabeth's and Anthony's wedding!

Sue, Phoenix




Take me back to the top!

Thursday July 3, 2008
July 3, 2008

i just want to say that i have clipped frorfw from the various news papers that have been around the country as i moved for over ten years. one of my favorties is when john took a young liz to help him pick out jewelry for elly. liz chose a friendship ring for him to give elly. also, farley, dear farley..... i was in a book store receintly and reread the day he saved april. there i am standing in barnes and noble with tears running down my cheeks. i wish all of you a good future! lynn, thanks for the years of the pattersons traveling around with me. i'm going to miss them when you go retro, and hope you will do a book to let us know how everyone turns out. the latest strips with april and grandpa jim have been especially touching to me as i just lost my grandfather last month from heart problems. he was the most important person in my life and i miss him terribly. as i read april saying its just the time she spends with him though they can't do all they once did it!
really touches home. thank you, lynn, thank you.

Kelly G, Phoenix AZ


I have to agree with those who do not like the reruns. The great thing about this strip is the suspense of the storylines. I can't wait to get back to the Liz/Anthony story.

I hope you will reconsider! I have noticed and appreciated how incredibly detailed the background drawings have become in FBFW in recent years. Perhaps you could save time with simpler drawings, yet still continue with new storylines?

Joan, Michigan



I REALLY love for better or for worse...I like the old ones even better.I enjoy seeing Baby Elizabeth,and Boy Micheal.It would be so cool to see a Sunday,colored strip in wich Baby Elizabeth gets lost & found.I am doing a comic strip of my own called "old rubber",main character is Renn Molt.
Thank You.

Craig M, CA



I just want to say that I love this strip!! My favorite is Liz. I am very happy she will marry Anthony. Maybe he's not as exciting as Warren (on the surface) but he is what she needs and wants. As far as Paul, I now understand him more after reading the inside story but it still doesn't excuse the fact that he cheated on Liz. Maybe she was sending him mixed signals but that is not an excuse to cheat on her. The poor girl already had one BF cheat on her. I didn't like the implication that it was somehow her fault. No one blamed Anthony when Therese cheated on him, so what's different? I can't wait for them to finally get married.

An avid fan in Florida



The second thing I do when we get our paper is going to your strip.You almost set the mood for the day.Hopefully we can leave with a smile but not with a "why did she do that" thought.Now t5hat our daughter is reading it too, Its funny hearing her comments.
I am sure that you never realized how many people you touch everyday.
How about John's trains?
thank you

Jurrien E, Prince George BC



I like the hybrid idea. If you must retire (read the sarcasm... you've been at it a long time and have done a great job, you deserve a rest!) you've picked a beautiful way to do it. A few snippets of new fodder once in a while will keep us "old readers" hanging on for as long as you do. You go, girl!!

Iris L, Alberta CA



I really look forward to reading this strip every day. Unfortunately my local paper doesn't have a Monday edition so I would often miss a crucial element in the story line until I found this website a few months ago. I created a shortcut on my desktop so I could quickly read about my favorite characters. Thank you for my "daily strip fix"!
Submit: Spill Your Beans

Susan S, Cairo Georgia



I have read you strip daily for many,mnay years. I have lived my life to extent through it.When Mike was leaving home, my only child was leaving.When Elizbeth was have love problems, my son was going through divorce.When Elly lost her Mom I had just lost my grandmother. My husband died suddenly in 2005 and he like myself read your first daily.Right know Elle's father is suffering from dementia after stroke, so is my Mom and my Dad is showing signs of the same thing. I have gay friends come and and saw how they were treated
must like Mikes friend. Your comic strip is like good friend I never met but loved anyway.My only niece will be 17 next week and I see April in her.Thank you for writting something so real it touches lives. It is real to many who read and comfort for those going through it.
Just ThankYou

Judy N, Enterprise Alabama


Lynn, I just wanted you to know that I really enjoy the facial and body expressions in your strip (i.e., think your drawing is really special) and have suggested to several young artists that they could learn a great deal by looking at them closely. Then recently, I was talking to another artist who says she cuts the faces in FBorFW out to use them in collage, as they are the best around. I also love the story, so to entirely enjoy the drawing as well is an extra treat. Thank you so much.

Leslie S, Ukiah CA



I am a native of Germany who married an U.S. Soldier. I started reading FBORFW back in the 80's with the very first book which was written. I bought it at the American Forces Network Book Store, in Nuernberg, Germany and was hooked ever since. I just had my son and could oh sooo well identify with Elly and John and their love bundle. We even had the same happen with our daughter when she decided to come into our lifes very late in the game.I still buy all the books faithfully and compare ourselfs to the happenings in the books. I absolutly love this family and have turned on a LOT of my friends to them as well. PLEASE keep up the good work. Every time a new one comes out I go into "my" room, nobody is allowed to interrupt me because I inhale it at first and then read it about five times to make sure I don't miss any of the details in the drawings. And I tell you what..... no matter how often I look at them I always find something that I didn't see before. I love the attention to detail in text and mimic. I hate to see the day when there are no more new books. How will I make sure my life is normal if there is no more FBORFW to compare notes to??? Thank you very much for all the great stories, they have made my life richer on a daily basis. THANK YOU

Michaela K, Ft. Worth Area



I've grown up with your characters and think things are resolving in a lovely fashion...I'm just sad to see the strip go, but very pleased I can read it online daily in StripFix! April in particular is very near and dear to our hearts as she was "born" right about the time my daughter Sofia made her entrance into the world. They are quite similiar girls and sometimes I appreciate the "heads-up" on certain teenage behaviour. ;) When FBorFW ends, it'll be like the demise of Bloom County or Calvin and Hobbes for me. Always fondly remembered and the daily funnies not quite the same!

Shelli B, Oregon and now Australia



I don't know where all the talk about rowdy, uncontrolled, classrooms is coming from. I am a teacher, high school mostly (I'm subbing while I'm going back to school for a Grad Degree) and I think today's kids are wonderful! They talk, really talk, to you and share so much of themselve with you. And classroom deportment, it is no better or worse than when I was in high school over thirty years ago. What is different is that kids are more in tune with what they want to do and how they think they will do it, like April and her friends. Are there kids who make teaching hard? Sure. BLut they are the minority.

Debra D, Los Angeles CA



When I was quite a bit younger, my parents needed to get a new driveway. My brother and I were allowed to write our names and put handprints in a corner of the new section of the driveway closest to our parents house. Since then it's gotten covered by dust and plant life. I wonder if it is still readable after all these years.
This was when I was in my 20s and my brother still a teenager.

Lara B, Santa Ana CA



I am born and bred English who just so happen to have lived in the States for 13 years. One of the things I missed was your comic strip so image my delight when a few years ago I found it online. It took me a few weeks to catch up, but now I never miss my daily log on to read the strip, also finding that I could purchase the books on line as well helped a lot. I will sorry to see the Patterson family retire so to speak, but understand that everyone no matter who deserves to relax more.

So relax and enjoy life more,
but thanks for a great family.

Carol N-H, New Denham Buckinghamshire England UK



I remember the strip where Elly finds herself in a quandary when trying to find just one book to buy, when she's surrounded by so many choices. I remember the strip where Elly is given that huge Snoopy, and hugs it tightly.

Ah, those were the days. The days before the storyline diverged wildly, and is now being crunched into a do-it-now wedding between yet another pair of childhood sweethearts. John and Elly must be the only ones in the strip who met each other as adults, not as children.

The whole Anthony thing is such a disappointment from what used to be a realistic storyline. I suppose the storyline would still be realistic, if Liz were portrayed as not caring whom she married, as long as she married, or if Anthony were given a real personality.

As it is, Anthony bears many similarities to Howard. When Liz was home for the summer - at a time when she had a man in her life - she was followed by both of them. Howard stalked her to find out where she lived. He sat outside her house. Eventually, he assaulted her. Anthony made sure he knew where she worked, came to her workplace to see her (while he was married) and after her assault, he took her to an out-of-the way place and took advantage of her emotionally. It was yet another assault, on top of the trauma she had already experienced.

This is just one reason why I can't stand Anthony. Not only is he insincere with his feelings and unable to express them, he thinks it's acceptable to take the woman he's obsessed with, who is already in a relationship, to an isolated area so he can try to wedge his way into her life again. Those are MAJOR warning signals. He didn't take her to the police station, he didn't ask her if she was all right, he took the opportunity to plead his case. The fact that he was married and she was in a relationship makes it even more reprehensible.

Anthony is supposed to be a "catch". Because he can dance? Because he's a good father? This "good father" saw to it that his daughter spent Christmas with his girlfriend's family. We don't see Francoise spending any time with her grandparents, or even having a telephone conversation with them. He's pushed Therese out of his life, and now he's pushing his daughter into the life HE wants her to live, not the life that is necessarily best for her. What is so great about that?

This "loving father" also married a woman he didn't love, tried to turn her into someone she wasn't, then cried when he didn't succeed. He's the kind of guy who can live for years off his imaginary woes. And his daughter will pay the price.

I know - it's too late now, the strip is ending, we have the magical dress, the magical ring, and I have no doubt we'll have the magical location, magical photographer, magical cake, magical everything cropping up all at once, so that this last-minute summer wedding will come off with a bang, rather than being a slapdash affair because the engaged couple didn't plan ahead. I know.

Erin



Wow. All I can think after the last few reruns is what a brat Michael was. Not cute at all.

What is the adult Michael up to? I like him a lot more.

PJ, Pleasanton CA



I have been a fan for years, especially since I have a 26-yr-old daughter Elizabeth who is getting married in September, and didn't decide on the date until this past April. See, your strip always chronicles OUR lives! Hers will be a non-religious ceremony, and one of the most challenging things so far was selecting the officiant from the wide and sometimes unusual assortment available. Food for thought....

Carol M, Ontario




Take me back to the top!

Wednesday July 2, 2008
July 2, 2008

"Child abuse"?! Good grief! What parent hasn't blown their stack, hauled off & grabbed their kid by the collar, & sent him to bed without supper for being a snarly mouthed, sassy little pain in the rump?!!

I'll tell you which parents- the ones raising all the kids today who have no discipline, no boundaries, & have never been told "no" or denied a thing because "his self esteem will be crushed". (Gag me!)

Those are the kids who are "running the zoo" today because most moms (& dads) have lost their backbone, are too wimpy, & allow the kids to call the shots. They have turned the job of parenting over to video games, television, & everyone else (teachers, babysitters, neighbours, etc.). But heaven help us if we say one critical word ("Hey, Mrs. Smith, your precious little Holy Terror just set fire to my cat's tail!), because then we are the bad guys!

Those of us who still believe that kids need discipline & threats (of lost privileges) carried out, are considered the abusers, while those who let their kids run amok (creating tomorrow's junior felon) are living in a world of denial. But for them, that's OK, because when the kid is too much for them to handle, they just pack him off to school with a handful of "control meds" & let the teachers (& eventually the law!) deal with it.

When did personal responsibility & accountability become such a bad thing?! Sigh...

Lynn, your strip has always been one of the very best. I have saved the personal email that you sent to me a few years back regarding the strip from the early 80's when Lizzie cut her foot on broken glass at a lake, & the impact that Ellie's wisdom had on me, as a young mother, at the time. My daughter, who was a baby at the time of that "episode", is now the mother of a beautiful 1 year old boy. That particular strip, from 1983, is as vital & meaningful today, as it was 25 years ago. That's one for the "re-run", but it doesn't need any re-work!!)

Thank you so very much for all the laughs, tears, wisdom, & strength you have imparted to all of us.We are all here for you, sister!

Catharine, Florida



O my goodness I was just reading the cofee talk! You can buy an apron with a For Better Worse comic strip on it! I will certainly have to order one of those! This is great news thank you to the nice lady who told the story of the wonderfull arpon I will be sure to buy one soon indeed.

The coffee talk people are very nice and most have wonderfull things to say. Some are a little persnikty but I think deep down they are probably just that way because they are so hoping for a new comic in the morning paper to give us all joy!

Thanks for letting me into the "coffee talk famly" so far it is a little like the Patterson famly only its real people! Well the Pattersons are quite real for a comic strip drawing family! I feel like I know some of you so well now! Thanks for the wonderfull comments on the BEST comic family of all time the PATTERSONS who are truley in it for Better Or For Worse!

Joan in Peoria



Life is beautiful, but not always pretty, and the bumps along the way are what make us grow. The Pattersons aren't perfect. Like us, they try to do what's right, and it doesn't always work. The magic that keeps us reading is that no matter what, the Pattersons have each other's backs. Somehow, whether in a panel sequence or behind the scenes, they forgive one another the mistakes along the way, without melodrama or intervention, and they keep trying.

Polished, morally and emotionally perfect characters are impossible to write and boring besides. I think it would be more irresponsible of such an eloquent, observant people-watcher as Ms. Johnston not to use her talents to shine a light on painful truths as well as delightful ones, and thereby let her characters be seen resolving them.

Let's not cave in to this litigious age, and propagate the fear of what other, less evolved, less patriotic neighbours might think or do if given half a chance. They had a word for that, back in the day.

Mishka, Vancouver


For a child to miss a meal - unless there are mitigating medical factors - is not child abuse. If it happened every day, every meal, that would be an entirely different scenario. It didn't. Children need boundaries - and discipline re-enforces where those boundaries are. I think Elly is/was right on target.

Mary, Belleville IL


I just checked in for my daily Strip Fix and am somewhat disappponted that there is no 'Canada Day' reference in today's strip. I don't mind the reruns butsurely an exception could have been made for Canada Day??

Jackie, Ontario



I LOVE todays strip! It may be an "old one ", but its a good one.

Thanks for all the great work that you and your staff have done.

Sandy S, Hudson NH



I have twin 4-year old boys and I am happy to take discipline lessons from Elly!! As most parents know, there are days when selling them to the local zoo sounds like a good idea (and perhaps some days the zoo would argue that point).

It would be great to get Therese's reaction to Liz and Anthony's engagement. Let's all remember that she left him - OK folks?

Jenn M, Bellingham MA


Are we going to have yet another week of Michael acting like a little boy and Elly yelling at him?

We're begging you. Can the flashbacks. Please. Stick to the present.

Joe, Michigan



I'm not as long time as many of your other fans, But I really wanted to throw in my two cents. The reason I started following this comic strip was because the people in it were and are growing with me at the same time, unlike the peanuts I grew up with who never got old and most ofany other comics. Going through old comics like this is sort of like looking throw old memories. I do it every once in a while but not that often, I always try to look to the future and in a way it keeps me young and fresh. I hope to see them all grow older and yes just like farley, they too will die some day. The great thing about the strip is everyone is getting older. The story lines are expanding and I know some day they all will all grow old and die just like us. All though it sounds negative, I also hope that maybe someone will be able to continue the strip in Lynns place some day. I know it's a hard thing to imagine, but some day I hope to be 70 (I'm 43 now) and still reading about!
the newest Pattersons. Maybe it's unrealistic maybe not, it's just something I hope. I don't read the peanuts anymore because most of them I remember from growing up and there is nothing new and fresh about it. If it is reasonable please keep it going, even if you have to wean in a new writer Nothing against you at all Lynn, you're the best.

Stephen W, Plano TX



Lynn i was just thinking that you should have mike wirte a book about his faimly shareing some of the best times and worst,then you should make the book real and have some of your favorite strips for the past in it.

Bridget Q, New Glasgow NS



I have been a long-time reader of this comic strip, and not only because it's brilliantly funny. As crazy as it sounds, it nearly parallels my own life. I'm two years younger than Elizabeth, but since she attended Grade 13, our life experiences with college and school were only a year apart. It kind of gave me an idea of where I was headed :) Also, I have a younger sister, who was due April 1 1990 but ended up being born March 20 of that year. Everything about their relationship is so wonderfully true - I've experienced most of it firsthand, from the annoyances to the wonderful relationship we now share. Unfortunately, I've shared some of the bad things in life with the Pattersons, as well. A few years after Elly lost her mom, so did mine. I had a major relationship fall apart the same time Elizabeth did. I hate ending on a sad note, so I saved the best part of reading for last: I'm getting married this September, to my highschool sweetheart who I've always loved, just like Elizabeth is! It's been wonderful to know that someone knows how I'm feeling and has been through the same situations I have, even if they exist mainly in ink. Thanks Mrs. Johnston - it's been wonderful.

Corina C, New York



I don't remember seeing one rerun strip in which Elly looks happy.

I haven't seen one new strip in months where Liz looks happy either. Stunned, or manic, or vengeful, or floating off somewhere else, yes -- but not happy.

I guess daughters do turn into their mothers.

Kate, California



I am enjoying reliving the baby years with the Pattersons, remembering my own babies, and I love the heartwarming and heartbreaking reality of dealing with elderly parents, remembering my own beloved parents. I would be so grateful if you would now share the part of life that no one really touches - the "empty nest" years when, one by one, the kids leave home, you and your husband face the changes that retirement brings, the wonderful continuation of life with grandchildren, and the reality of your own aging and mortality. You have beautifully touched us with every other period of life and living - please don't neglect this one. Your strip is a slice of life, complete with tears and lifted with laughter. I don't know what I would do without it.

Linda D, Winston-Salem NC



I think Liz and Anthony have not shown any heat ,because the first time they do poor Lynn will be flooded with emails from uptight readers or old prunellas telling her off for allowing to not yet married people to act in such a manner. They will try to impose their beliefs and scold her for setting a bad example for the younger generation. Poor Lynn. Lynn whatever you choose to do with your creation I will love it. Always have everyday for years. I will miss you. God bless you and yours.

Meredith, Memphis TN



Bravo, Lynn! You've summed it all up in just a few paragraphs what it takes to put together the world you've created. I dread August 30 now, and look forward to it as well. You've worked hard, you deserve some time to yourself. Thanks a million and more!

Wendy, Central Pennsylvania



I love the story of the Patterson family and its ok with me whatever Lynn does....I think she should just do as she likes with the story lines.....as it goes....you can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.
I read Lynns comments carefully and say LYNN do your own thing....!! As many others have said, sometimes I think Lynn was peeking in my window as a ton of the things that happened in the Patterson family happened in mine...what a hoot seeing the same situations in a comic strip......

Linda, Toronto



Hi Lynn,

There is a Sunday strip that I wish you would rerun soon. It is the one where John and Elly are driving in their car with Michael and Liz in the back. Elly and John begin to notice that other drivers are giving them dirty looks. One guys actually sticks his tongue out at them as he passes their car. John and Elly look at each other in total bewilderment. Meanwhile, Michael and Liz are making faces at other drivers from the rear window! It's hilarious and it stuck in my memory for years. Please run this strip again. This time I will definitely cut it out!

Cheryl L, Forest City




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July 1, 2008



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Tuesday July 1, 2008
July 1, 2008

I'm a Yank currently living in the UK... and I've been reading this strip almost from the beginning.

I never missed reading it, back in the States, in the local paper and when I came here I was delighted to find it on line.

I am truly going to miss watching the Pattersons. They ARE like real people; the comments here are a testament to Lynn's wonderful talent and insight into human nature.

I, for one, am grateful to have had all those years watching the Patterson family live, love, struggle and enjoy life. From the simple pleasure of a child playing in a pile of autumn leaves to the heart-rending subject of the aged and infirm, Lynn has given it all to us in a thoughtful, sensitive manner.

Lynn, thank you. Enjoy your retirement, enjoy your life !

Mish M, Eton-Windsor


Dear Lynn,
First of, I want to tell U thank you for posting my comments.I think that the comic for wed.october 31,2007 the fourth panel baby Elizabeth looks so cute,& on Saterday november 3,o7 Michael looks hansome in the first panel.Also on Tuesday November 13,o7 Michael's teddy-bear is very cute...I really like his teddy-bear it's awsome.
THANK YOU!!

Craig M, Cal


I am a 60 year old retired US Army First Sergeant. I have followed FBorFw for as long as I can remember. During my active duty travels and assignments to areas that did not have it I would have a "trusted" familty member cut and send the strips. You do become involved in the story line. Never would have thought it....

Richard L, Fortuna CA


It occurs to me now and again that the reason Liz doesn't show the affection that people want her to show is that the assault is still affecting how she sees the world. Because of it, she's willing to marry Anthony because it's the safest option. Also, it makes her afraid to feel any strong emotion lest she fall apart. It would be be the best ending if she were to admit that she was afraid to show her very real love for Anthony, warts and all. That way, she could start her life with him without all the baggage from her past. We could also have him admit that he's relieved to hear that because he'd messed up his first marriage by trying to push Therese where she didn't want to go, it drove both of them half crazy and that's one mistake he doesn't want to make again. That would put paid to all the criticism of him.

Anonymous


I would have never guessed what kind of kid was Michael without the older strips. It's really fun & I enjoy it very much. I have been reading strips for a long time but Michael & Elizabeth were both much older when I started.
Thanks for sharing your talent with us Lynn,

Elizabeth R, Ocean Springs MS


Funny, isn't it, how the kids immediately have an urgent need for the bathroom the minute Mom is relaxing in the tub, Daddy's in the shower, or brother or sister is going potty. My favorite bathroom oriented strip is when Lizzie is potty training and Elly is trying to give her privacy, then walks in to find her sitting in the toilet with toilet paper everywhere. Thanks as usual for the slice of life with little ones.

Angela, Pennsylvania


I can relate to today's comic strip. My kids (ages 3 and 6) never have a problem or need anything until the precise moment I get into the bathtub. Then they will stand in the bathroom and play 20 questions: "Mom, are you almost done? Can you help me with my transformer? Why do you shave your legs? Are you using up all of the Mr. Bubble?" Funny and all too true, Lynn. Thank you and I hope you start the strip over from scratch and re-run it for the next 24 years, ala Peanuts. I'd read it all over again.

Penny, Milwaukee


I have been reading and loving the strip for more than 20 years. We recently moved from CA to VA and didn't have a newspaper for a few weeks. I was so worried I would miss something...till I found this website, which I appreciate. And now here's my two cents...PLEASE don't tell me we are in for another week of reruns!Reruns, like overnight visitors and fish, stink after three days!

Kathleen M, Charlottesville VA


There's a big difference between discipline and abuse. Maybe more parents need to learn the difference and then actually discipline their kids. I see way too many self-absorbed, rude, thoughtless, clueless kids who appear to feel that they are entitled to EVERYTHING for nothing because that's how they're raised. They have no respect for authority because they have never been taught that there are boundaries in life and consequences for stepping over those boundaries!

And let me tell you, I've seen the consequences of GUILT parenting...it's a variation of these kids, but now they harbor DEEP resentment toward the parent or parents who used the GUILT technique AND they then have a hard time forming and keeping relationships because they never know when they'll be made to feel guilty for any and all perceived wrongs.

Discipline AND lots of love...that's the best way!

Lisa, Las Vegas


It would be good to see Anthony happy at one of his weddings. He's a good guy and doesn't deserve the put downs from many of your readers. Perhaps a big reason for the 53% divorce rate is the "handsome groom, beautiful bride, unlimited sex and happily ever after" myth. It takes balance and responsibility along with all that! Only Liz and Anthony know what's good for them, but please don't leave us to figure out the ending for ourselves as some novelists do as in "Did they or didn't they?".

Nancy, Ohio


Hello again,
I sent a short disappointed comment a little while ago -- and then let my head wander through what I really wanted to say.
Here goes.
The thing that makes FBFW so incredibly great to me is the fact that the characters progress forward in time. They're not static, bound in a single slice of life for ever. Just like I'm not.
Again, today's strip with Michael and Lawrence was cute.
But it's like looking at family photo albums. It's fun to glance back and share the memories. For a few minutes.
But I wouldn't go back in time to those earlier days. I like being the person I am now with the experiences I've accumulated and am having.
And for better or for worse, that's how I (and many others) relate to these Patterson family. We love the growing of the family. We look eagerly forward to what happens to them next.
Sadly, once the new strips end, I will no longer be a faithful reader.
And that makes me very sad. It feels like knowing someone has a terminal illness and the doctor has admitted there's no more interventions to be done.
I understand the new strips will be back in at some point during these final two months.
I realize that Lynn is trying to achieve something unique and I do cheer her for that.
And I know Charles Schultz and the Peanuts strips were/are a great inspiration.
And I read Peanuts even after his death for a long time.
But the difference between that strip and this one lies in the fact that Peanuts wasn't quite as locked to progessively growing older with the characters. So it was easier to go back in time with them.
I know this is a very long comment and I apologize. But as I said, I feel I am waiting for the demise of something I care about.
At least now I've figured out why I'm feeling the way I do.
And the sad thing is this comes at a time when the website has become so strong. The coffee talk, character background sketches, so much detail -- and I'm not sure how all that will matter in September when the past takes over.
Lynn, I do wish you and your staff all the best. I really do. I would love to think the Sunday sketches would continue to be new and really focus on meaningful bits of the ongoing family interactions. But probably not.
So with sadness, I say thank you.

Mary L, Iowa



I find it strange that Liz is so anxious for Grandpa Jim to see her get married in Grandma Marion's dress, yet she turns around and has Deanna alter the dress.

Tallulah W, Mobile AL


ENOUGH WITH THE RERUNS!!!
ENOUGH WITH THE RERUNS!!!
ENOUGH WITH THE RERUNS!!!

Amber S, Dallas TX


I hope the parents among us can see these old strips as cute.

To me, Michael as a kid is a GREAT ad for remaining child-free.

Susan S, New York




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Monday June 30, 2008
June 30, 2008

Lynn, I'm a relative latecomer to the FBOFW universe, but once I started reading, I never stopped. (I have no recollection of the rerun strips, and started reading after I heard about Lawrence.) Thank you, Lynn, for entertaining us and inspiring us all these years.

While I by no means dislike Anthony, a little more "heat" between him and Liz would be a good thing to show. They seem a little...bored with each other, and I think many of us read that as not boding well for them five or ten years down the road. If a couple is not careful, comfort can become ennui and apathy. And while I do enjoy the flashbacks, with our time winding down, I'd much rather see what is going with the present-day Pattersons.

To say that 'Strip Fix' promotes illegal drug use is patently ridiculous. People get coffee fixes, shopping fixes, chocolate fixes, which are pretty harmless. Lynn's strip has been such a force for good; I kind of doubt anyone will be led down the road to ruin because they've read the FBOFW Strip Fix.

Jon W, Colorado Springs, CO


It is interesting to read all the comments relative to the old strips vs the new ones. I too have been a fan for eons. I too own all the books (which I have revisited many, many times). I have autographed prints, dvds, books and I too prefer the new material. However, I can also appreciate the desire to retire and for you Lynn, to take a step back, put up your feet and to enjoy life. You've earned it girl! Thanks so much for years of enjoyable reading. *pours out some wine for the Coffee Talk crowd* Raise your glasses and join the toast to Lynn's years of work and dedication to "For Better or For Worse." Cheers!

Eilonwy, Connecticut



Lynn,
I can't help but wonder how many people have read your Coffee Talk letter. The letter gives great insight to everyone who has been a fan for many years(me included). It's just so hard for everyone to realize that the characters are fictional. I had even thought that if I ever went to Canada I'd look them up! LOL! I'm sure I'm not alone in those thoughts.
It's good though to see Elly and John when they were younger, and yes, I do know better than to try and look them up! :^)
I would though, love to see a book at some time in the future, of how their lives have evolved. But if there isn't, I'd still read your daily on-line (I can't wait for the paper), visit the website, and wish you the very best.

Joy, Somerset NJ



Please...punishing a child by sending him to his room and no dinner is abuse?!

Tracey, Alexandria VA



Now that Warren's and Paul's bios have appeared, I'd like to comment on these "other" men in Liz's life. I found it very hard, if not impossible, to regard Warren as a serious suitor, as he never seemed to be around more than a few days at at time. Nor did there appear to be all that much contact (phone, e-mail, IM, letter)between him & Liz over the years. I saw that relationship more as somewhere between "might have been" and "never really was."

Unlike many contibutors here, I was never a "Paul fan." In fact, I actually groaned when Elly spent the night in the police station and, during the dicussion of Liz and "finding Mr. Right," the panel showed the office door of "Ofc. Paul Wright". Maybe I had an inkling that the relationship would be ill-fated, owing to distance -- this happened to 2 friends of mine some years ago, the distance and difference in regional mindset were too much for the couple to overcome. Perhaps neither one handled the end very well, but by the same token, neither was "the bad guy."

Although I had rooted for a Liz and Anthony reunion for years, as things are winding down I almost wish she'd call the whole thing off. Both of them seem very lukewarm about finally getting married (save for Liz's enthusiasm over getting the engagement ring) -- there's a difference between "steady" and "all but disinterested." And, as has been pointed out by other posters, we have seen very little of Anthony since they bought the ring -- what does he make of the accelerated plans?

Liz isn't even 30 yet and has plenty of time to find her soul-mate, rather than a room-mate.

Eileen M, Gainesville, FL, USA


My mother used to cut the strip out of the paper every day and paste (thats actually gluing!) each one into a large scrap book. She had about fifteen books of FBOFW in the end. I used to enjoy going to visit and sit out on the balcony looking over the sea (the parents had moved to Queensland)reading unlimited FBOFW stories. Thank you Lynn for some great insights into life. I am now a father of three young ones and can really relate to the stories and the timeline of the kids as they grow. All the best wishes for you and your family. Thanks again for producing the greatest comic story ever!

Richard, Melbourne Australia



I've read your strip almost from the beginning and I have to say how much times have changed! In the "old days" I thought the strip was funny and a reflection of real life relationships between loving families. But now that I am seeing the old strips and the way the Pattersons treated each other, I find it a little shocking. From the strips you've chosen, it looks like John and Elly never got along or even liked each other very much and it seems like Elly thought of her children as being a phased of life to be endured and muddled through, rather than a time when bonds and memories are made.

No wonder the Patterson girls seem so needy now and the parents seem to have drifted apart.

How I miss the days when you drew the strips that said, "old love is better than new love"! I wonder if you are intentionally choosing strips that will later explain a falling out or separation of the Pattersons' extended family. Will Mike And De go off to live in Vancouver? Will April take early graduation and go away to college in Halifax? Will John run away to Tahiti? Will Elly run off to find herself in a new life in Moosonee?

Cant' wait to find out how it all gets wrapped up.

Davia


OMGG, CAN WE PLEASE GO BACK TO THE PRESENT?!

Jada N, PA



This is the best comic strip ever!!!!! Thank you so much my husband and i often talk about the charactors as if they were our friends. If he misses a couple of strips I will say hey aprils doing this or so on. I cant wait for the wedding. Thanks Lynn

Kimberly W, California


Okay, I agree with the parties that these "old" strips are boring, and with the wrapping up of the stories, I also want more coverage on that.
Here's what I want to see:
1) Elly and Anthony's mom talking.
2)Liz and Anthony's mom talking.
3)Anthony and Liz in pre-marital counselling.(though yeah; I guess it's hard to come up with a comic-strip friendly way to portray that)
4)Liz reading stories to Francie; particularly one of the "wicked stepmother" fairy tales, and explaining why not all stepmothers are wicked.
5)Liz and Therese having a conversation about Liz adopting Francie.(that way if Anthony dies, Francie isn't forced to go live with Therese who doesn't appear to want her anyway)
Otherwise, I have always been fascinated with the character of Therese. She seems to be a very mixed personality. At first she is mean to Anthony at their wedding, then she is jealous of every female(doesn't anyone remember that New Years party in 2004-5 when it was said that she was jealous of Tracey as well?), then she doesn't seem fond of raising the child she is carrying, and then "her career took off" and she's never home, and then she's left Anthony for another man! I always hoped we'd one day get a reason for why she was so jealous and insecure; like maybe her dad left her mom for his high-school sweetheart?(which we saw didn't happen) Or she had been dumped by previous boyfriends, for someone else?
Oh, and just because she showed up at the mall alone doesn't necessarily mean she's not still with the guy she left Anthony for.

J.U., Manitoba


Ah please, folks! I agree with Tracey from Denham Springs LA. Kids need discipline and don't need parents to tippy toe up to their offspring asking them permission to reprimand them. I've seen that too often. Come on, people, go spend a few minutes in a high school class nowadays and have a good look at what too much freedom and lack of firmness does to our youth. Elly did nothing wrong in any of the strips. Remember Mike's famous sentence: "If this is a lecture, how long is it going to last?" Well, luckily, Elly fumed and set the record straight with her son after that comment. Notice how Mike never mentioned anything like THAT again.

Diane G, Quebec City


i absolutely live this stip!!!

Margaret, Clovis California


As a recovering drug addict, I have an "addiction" to FBOFW and have had since it started when I was 9 years old (yes - way back in 1979 when it started) so for me it IS my daily "fix" ... and for those that HAVE to read it every day that is just what it is, a FIX of the Patterson's and we are all going to go into terrible withdrawls when the strip ends in August. I for one do not mind the name of the daily "fix" as that is what it is in my mind ... a "fix" of the Patterson's and a little scene from their daily life......Also, I do not see it as a form of PROMOTING ILLEGAL DRUG USE....Thanks for letting me share! LOL

Anne W



Hoo-Boy!! Not only has Ellie committed Aggravated Domestic Assault (remember "the throwing of the garden glove" ?) --She's also a Csild Abuser!!! (Sheesh, and People think JOHN is a jerk!) WHY ISN'T THIS WOMAN IN JAIL?!?! CONSTABLE PAUL, COME DOWN AND ARREST HER--NOW!

I agree with what Shawn D. says. Although Ellie didn't "choke" Michael, there's no need for the measures Ellie DID take when G*U*I*L*T can be so much more effective:

"...Is THIS my reward for changing your smelly diapers? ..For walking the floor with you each and every night? ...For living on burnt toast and chicken backs, so YOU wouldn't have to??"

I've known Mothers who were so good at laying on that "Guilt Trip" they could have left the hardest-boiled Military Dictator sobbing in the corner for a week: dry Cheerios for supper would, in comparison, have seemed like a mild finger-shake!

Anna M, Winnipeg



I have been a reader and fan of For Better or for Worse for many years. My partner is a dentist and many of the strips have ended up on the office corkboard or on our refrigerator at home.

To me Lynn is a great artist - she paints a wonderful story for me every day. I have no qualms with the story lines or the parenting skills. She's the artist and she gets to present the story her way. Life is sometimes difficult and sometimes not perfect. To me Lynn shows life for what it is and I appreciate that.

Lynn - I hope you never stop telling visual and literal stories. I want to grow old knowing you work in one way or the other.

Thank you.

Tom W, Lincolnville Maine


I love reading the comments in "Coffee Talk." I laugh at some of them and get new perspectives from others.

Since I became a parent quite late in life and have been a teacher all my life, I thought I would be "cool, calm and collected." I remember one time we were at a hotel and Nicholas refused to fall asleep in the furnished crib. Finally, in respect to other hotel guests, I took him out of the crib and put him in bed. He fell asleep immediately. My reaction? I kicked the bed! My husband was shocked and so am I, but sleep deprivation sometimes turns us into less than ideal parents.

My point, parenting has better and worse times. Lynn, thank you for showing us that even though we have "worse" times, our love and good intentions and good parenting lead to better times.

Michelle, Cincinnati



I read this comic with my mom every day, and my favorite character is Elly. I love the funny drawing and dialogue, like Robin and Meredith talking, or the young Micheal and Elizabeth talking.Please keep the humor coming!

Claire R, Sarinac



I for one don't much care for the Elly of years ago. Compared to the loving, family-oriented, compassionate Elly we know today, the "younger" Elly seems impatient, uncompassionate, and unhappy. When my two were little and they acted silly and if my son were amusing his baby sister like that, we would have been laughing our heads off. I find these old strips depressing, and devoid of the wonder of raising kids.

Carla, Tulsa



I have bought every book on the Patterson's, I read the strip fix every day. When I need a good cry I read "Remembering Farley". You have brought me joy, laughter, tears, understanding and occasionally wondered how you got into my house. I started buying your books when pregnant with my first child. He's 17 and now my 9 year old daughter is reading your books. Thank you

Susan B, Prince Albert Saskatchewan



In contrast to others leaving comments, I'm relieved to see some parenting that resembles what was common 25 years ago. Of course Elly lost her cool and of course it's not the best of punishments to deprive a child of dinner. But John's right: he's healthy, he'll survive, and you mustn't go back on your word.

Furthermore, the notion that holding a child by his clothing, sending him to his room or even (if he's otherwise well-fed) depriving him of a meal is comparable to hitting him is just loony!

Modern parenting 'techniques' and their promoters seem to have no tolerance of imperfect parents. Worse, many of the children resulting from these techniques (or perhaps from their improper, thoughtless application) could benefit a great deal from a little discipline. We're raising a whole generation of rude, thoughtless brats.

Michael, like many kids of his era that were parented similarly, grew up just fine.

Dixie M, Salem Oregon



I have not once thought Michael or anyone else was being abused in this strip. Lynn, don't take all this criticism to heart, it's rediculous. There were times in my kids' young lives, where they did not want to eat what I prepared for dinner. Mostly it was my picky daughter, who, over the years, has become less picky. She would sit there and poke her food until dinner was over and want something else. We'd tell her this was what I had prepared, and if she was hungry, she'd eat what was on her plate. There were times when she chose not to eat the item, and believe it or not, it wasn't always the vegtable being ignored, it was usually some casserole or other. It was her choice, and she'd go to bed with unfinished food on her plate once it was bedtime. She didn't starve to death, and I don't believe I abused her. She had to learn that I am Mom, not a short-order cook with a 24-hour kitchen. I spend a lot of time making dinner, and!
that's what is on the menu. This was mostly when she was much younger, and now at 12 and 1/2, I can't remember the last time she objected to dinner. My son, on the other hand, is a 14-year-old-eating machine and never seems to be satisfied!

Anyway, I am enjoying all the old strips, also. If there is one, such as today's Sunday strip, that I have never seen, I print it out and tuck it into the first FBorFW book; I have all of them! Lynn, I hope you re-run as many as you can that are not in your books, just for that purpose! It's fun! That way, they are new to me. When your strip first came out, it wasn't in our paper, and did not appear, to my memory, until April came along. I will definitely miss your strip when you retire. You are a very talented artist, and I love the details of your drawings. I hope you will get to relax a little more in your retirement than Elly has so far in hers!

Kim E, Stockton CA



Lynn is no more promoting drug use than she is child abuse! Oh, heavens, call the cops, Elly grabbed her son by the collar! Oh, the humanity! He went to bed without dinner! GASP!!! He misbehaved, and he was punished accordingly. We wasn't beaten, and I'm reasonably sure he got breakfast the next day. One night without a meal is not going to harm a child. And if it serves to get his attention and make him think twice about his behaviour, more the better. Never mind that the strip in question is about 20 years old! When I got out of line as a child I went to bed without supper, and lo and behold, I'm not a serial killer! There's a difference between discipline and abuse!

As I said earlier, Lynn; KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!

Adriann S., Shohola PA



I'm getting kind of fed up with all the "Anthony Bashing" that's been going on ever since Elizabeth and he reunited. Especially irritating are the assertions that he's not a good "catch."

Well, let's see... he's a successful business executive (he's the general manager of three businesses, NOT a bookeeper), he's a dedicated and loving father, he's extremely handy around the house, he gets along well with Elizabeth's family, he works regular hours, and he's a good dancer. Most women I know would consider a guy like that to be a VERY good catch.

Roger V, Portland OR



I love the continuing story of the Pattersons, and I'm so glad to be able to come here and catch up on all their doings. Thanks, Lynn, for giving us this wonderful stories!

Frosty, Seattle



I just LOVE for better or for worse...the comic strip for 5,30,o8 is funny,poor Elly.

Craig M, CA



Lynn,

Firstly, I would like to tell you that I've greatly enjoyed the strip over the years, and that to my knowledge I own every book you've ever released. I'm including the anniversary specials, David We're Pregnant as well as specific collections (April).

I am so disappointed that we're in for another week of flashbacks.

I feel like you aren't listening to your readers at all anymore. Do you even read the coffee talk blog?

While I understand that these strips may have been funny back in 1983, they haven't aged well. They make Elly appear neglectful, resentful and depressive. Since you've always done your best to portray Elly in a positive light, I don't understand why you would pick these particular strips to rerun. Or for that matter, why you are wasting time with reruns at all.

Your readership has been dedicated and loyal for a long time. Over 20 years for me alone, and that's not uncommon. Please give us the closure we crave. Stand by what you say, and use the (boxcar) outta those daily 30 seconds. Let's make the rest of those seconds count, hmm?

Has anyone else visited Grandpa Jim? Is April finally going to dump Gerald? Does Anthony have a family besides Francie that we'll see at a wedding? Is his mother horrible just like Mira? Is Mira really that horrible after all? Are Merrie and Robin okay? Are John and Elly going to make it forever?

I have so many questions. Come on Lynn, you've made it this far. Why not go out with a bang?

Carly H, Thunder Bay ON



I just really love,enjoy the old strips...ESPAICALLY the Sunday COLOURED ones.The comic for June,29,08 is awsome cuz the 4th panel (not counting the one that says "For Better or for Worse),the 4th panel where they are cuzing baby Elizebeth out is so cool cuz she looks like my little friend.I love U!!!!Lynn keep up your duper work up,up.

Craig M, CA



Seems to me, that todays kids might have turned out a bit differently if some good, old-fashioned discipline was utilized. Note , I did NOT say punishment or beating, etc.
I see and hear some of todays kids, and it almost makes me want to cry- their profanity, lack of respect, rude behavior,etc.
True, there are exceptions to this, but, they are few and far between.
But, to actually accuse Lynn, or FBOFW, of promoting child abuse, is INSANE !!!
Are you the same people who want to censor any of the old classics, just because they do not agree with your ideas on child-raising ?
Lynn, I have loved FBOFW for ever, and will miss it dearly. As for running the classics, if people don't like them, then they don't need to read them, and, especially don't need to try to take them away from those of us who do. Love and Peace,

Denise B, PA



Dear Lynn,
May you please do a Sunday,coloured strip in wich Baby Elizebeth gets into trouble?& also where Elizabeth (when she's a baby)gets lost & found at a grocery store.Thank you.
Pretty PLLEEEZEEEE!!!!!!!!

Jean M, CA



We grew up laughing
at what our Mom's & Dad's did to us! Yes we live in a different era, but we still need to remember to laugh!I think alot of us have forgotten that! Thanks Ms. Johnson for the memories and the laughs!

Carla S, Sutton MA



Happy Dominion Day to Lynn and all the staff at For Better or For Worse !!!!!

George, Rochester NY



For those who are unaware of the Disciplinary Measure called "The Guilt Trip", which some Parents insist is superior to spankings and "supperless" bedtimes. here is a Basic Outline:

The Guilt Trip is divided into clearly recognizable {arts, each delivered in a normal speaking voice punctuated by long, deep sighs. NO shouting. cursing, or name-calling is allowed and ABSOLUTELY NO attempts can be made to shake, strike or throttle the Miscreant. The Parts are:

I. THE PREAMBLE. Here the Parent catalogues everything given up for the Offender's sake -- a year's worth of nighttime sleep, some desperately needed wardrobe or workshop items, the chance to take a World Cruise, etc. etc.

2. THE ROLL OF OFFENSES: Here follows a list of the Miscreant's wrongdoings, beginning with the latest and covering at least the past 6 months.

3, THE WIND-UP: Here, the assertion is made that the Offender won't be happy until one or both Parents have suffered heart attacks, or the Neighbours unite to drive the Family out of town!

4. THE PROPHECY: Here "Physical Punishment" is deemed not neccessary, as True Retribution will come "One Day when you least expect it, and not from your Dad/Mom or Me."

It is important to note that have been no definitive studies on the efficacy of the "Guilt Trip" as a means of correcting a Child's Misbaviour. But the long-term consequences have been known to have hugely positive effects on the Bank Balances of Psychotherapists, Analysts, "Relationship Counsellers".

Anna M, Winnipeg



Man i love mike when he was young,he's just like how i was and how my sisters are now lol.

Can't wait till liz big day

Bridget Q, New Glasgow NS



You have got to stop with those "flash back" comic strips and need to keep with the "current". As soon as I see how the lay-out looks for "back in the day", I skip reading it altogether. It doesn't bring interest and I've read a number of inputs on here that are saying the same also. You would have a weeks worth of good comic strips then you would skip to having 2 weeks of "flash backs". Are you loosing ideas for new material???

Carrie, North Bay ON



It's not usual for me to write twice in one week, but I do want to tell you about my yesterday morning.

For my Valentine's Day gift, my husband bought a FBOFW apron from your connection with CafePress. The picture is of Ellie having a cuddle with grand-daughter Meredith.

Sunday morning, it was my turn to be the snacks Hostess for Fellowship Hour at church. My husband gave the suggestion I wear the cartoon grandma apron (partly, I think, because it has the least stains on it yet).

As I was pouring juice or refilling the danish tray, several folks would see my apron, get a nostalgic look on their face, mention how that is the favorite comic, or the first one they go to read, how sad it is that the closing is coming.

Pretty much all the same sentiments you read here in Comments.

At least two ladies asked how they could get an apron like it, so I told 'em to go the website and click on the shopping icon.

It was my pleasure to do a little advertising on your behalf :)

Diane W, Normal IL



I love your strip. It has seemed so appropriate for dealing with all "the ages of man." However, I don't care for the flashback portion which seems dated in its approach to child raising. I find the multi-generational trials much more meaningful.

Judy M, Iowa





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I love this strip and consider it more as a continuing story than a comic strip. That is not to say that I don't appreciate the incredible talent you display in the drawings and plot lines. I've been following this strip as long as I can remember (many, many years) and I will miss it sorely when it comes to a close. Of course, I wish Lynn, whom I feel that I "know" the very best.

Geri, NYC


I think all new parents should be warned that the most important rule of parenting is, "Choose your battles." Then they should be warned that they're bound to break it at some point. And of course, Rule #2 would have to be, "Never make empty threats; always follow through." Which is just as easy to break, but much more detrimental if you do. =)This has always been one of my favorite strips--one every young parent can relate to--painfully so!

Angela, Pennsylvania


I'm concerned at the name of the daily strip archive,
"Strip Fix". It's similar to Doonesbury's "Daily Dose," as in, something that must be consumed regularly in order to avoid distressing symptoms, but "Fix" has a whole drug-culture connotation. I work with recovering addicts, and I can tell you that the daily cravings for a "fix," the compulsion to go back to the addiction, are nothing to laugh about. I am dismayed that such a wholesome family comic strip as yours would choose to promote illegal drugs.

S.C.T, Philadelphia


Wow. As I read the latest comics about Liz's Grandpa, I can't stop thinking about my own grandparents. My grandfather missed my wedding by more than a year and never saw his grandkids. My grandmother was fortunate enough to see 4 out of 6. My grandfather died many years ago, after battling with life after a stroke. My grandmother died 2 years ago peacefully. I can't help but tear up so much as I read those comics.

They are beautiful.

Erica, BC


ENOUGH ENOUGH ENOUGH!!!!!!! I agree with Susan from Ottowa. Your old strips are almost guaranteed to give some parents the idea that it's ok to choke a child, withhold food, or keep them in their room for hours. We have abused children aplenty in our society, STOP MAKING ABUSE LOOK OK. I don't care if it was not thought of as abuse 25 years ago, it is abuse now. CUT IT OUT. I also don't care if Elly relents and gives Michael dinner. She still grabbed his collar and lost her cool big time, and confined him excessively. Give us a break please.

Shawn D, Portland OR


Everyday when I pick up the newspaper the first thing I do is read FBorFW and marvel at your incredible talent. I admire you greatly for your art but sometimes your storytelling ability astounds me. First, I can't believe how much you understand human behavior, and second I marvel at the emotions that you are able to bring forth in that comic strip almost everyday.

I understand that all good things must come to and end, but I will miss the strip with its humor, drama, love, and the little slice of life that it brings to my mornings. I am grateful that you are planing to start from the beginning again and rerun the old strips. I have read the early strips in your books, but having them again in the morning with my coffee will be like going through pictures of my old friends and reliving our time together.

I do wish that in a few years, after you have rested and enjoyed a wonderful retirement, you would create one more graphic novel, and tell us about the family when they are older and little about what has occurred along the way.

Sincerely, and with the very best wishes for a happy retirement.

Dottie F, Santa Cruz


I'm not really happy that Liz is marrying Anthony. I don't like rushing the wedding. I know the comic is winding down and there's no time to introduce a new character and develope him but I just don't feel that their was a relationship that was meant to be. I'd like her to go off again, somewhere exciting to teach....overseas, like England, Paris or even a third world country with an internation charity group. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with getting married and having kids. Have enjoyed the the Pattersons over the years. Many times the things they went through mirrored what was going on in my own life. The issues are real.

Suzy, Winnipeg


In regards to running the older strips - maybe you need some extra time to finish the storylines before August 30th! Take all the time you want and keep extending the finish date out as far as you can!!!

I will miss my daily FBorFW strip fix. The old strips are OK but I probably won't read them very much. Part of the allure of your strip is the continuing story that follows each one of us through our own life stories. I can get old if Ellie gets old too. My husband can retire because John retires. I don't want them to freeze and have me move on without them.

Please, please reconsider your decision. Don't you have a dedicated staff member that would take on the honor of continuing the strip?? I know there must be someone out there that can continue on if even it was only Michael and family with occasional glimpses of the others.

In any case, thank you for listening.

Pat M, Franklin NC


It is hard for me to read these "flashback" strips. The parenting skills displayed make me feel very sad because I want our media to model effective ways of being with children. Today's strip is a good example. Is Mom giving her child a wedgie? There are so many ways to "discipline" kids that don't involve hitting or punishing.

I wish there were comics that were brave enough to show ways of parenting different from the norm. For any reader that's interested, I'd suggest googling Attachment Parenting or Nonviolent Communication to find other alternatives that when are displayed in these strips.

Dave, San Diego


So, Elizabeth gets a birthday mention, but April doesn't? That's messed up!

Debby Kelly


[April had her own special homepage on our website on April 1st; we try to acknowledge all the birthdays somehow!]


Dear Lynn,

I discovered Elly's Coffee Talk a couple of months ago, and I have to say congratulations! You have thicker skin than I to be able to invite and read the sometimes harsh criticism that you receive here. At least you know that your readers are invested in and passionate about your work.

I've been an on-again, off-again reader of FBoFW over the years. The off-agains were mostly dictated by lack of access to a newspaper before the internet existed. I've caught up using the archives on this website and have bought several of your older anthologies. Like so many others, I'm going to miss the new strips when you retire.

I'm not going to enter the who-should-Liz-marry or the how-she-should-wear-her-hair debates. :-) I just wanted to say how much I've enjoyed your strip, particularly the ones when April was a little girl. What an imp she was! So full of life and curiosity. You must have had such fun thinking of new mischief for her to get into.

I hope you have a wonderful retirement, and know that we'll all miss you.

Kristina, Peterborough ON


My goodness that Micheal was a sassy little scamp wasnt he! Its amazing that he turned out to be such a wondefull man and successfull auther and writer! What a tribune to the wonderfull mothering of Ellie to do that to him and bring out two wonderfull chilldren Micheal and Elizabeth as fully grown adults with families and chilldren of their own! Wow! Congradulations to all.
And to me as well as my earlier comments were published on the internet website! Ha-ha thanks maybe this one will make the cut as well! Keep up the awesome work and funny comic.

Joan from Peoria


My husband recently had a stroke and I credit "For Better or For Worse" for helping me recognize the symptons early and getting immediate medical help.

Grandpa's inability to formulate words gave me the information I needed to recognize my husband's symptom.

Who'd a thought a comic strip could be so important?!?!

Linda, Oakland CA


I've been reading this strip for a long time and enjoyed watching the kids grow up. I personally am not a fan of the reruns, though. I've already watched the kids grow and am interested in knowing about their adventures as adults. Since new stories will end soon, maybe you can wait until Fall to resume the reruns.

PJ, CA



Oh, Lynn, poor Elly. I know just how she feels. My oldest daughter is EXACTLY the same as Michael was. I can only hope that she will grow up as successful and happy. (side bar to Joan, .. um.. you thought that mustache was sexy?????)

Sue, Barrie


Dear Lynn
I've been a loyal fan ever since you start drawing. I even have a couple of your books autographed. They were my Mom's but I inherited them. There were times I swear you were living in our house.I'm thinking about Farley and the dog pound. Your humour got me through some rough times including cancer.

Shelley G, North Bay ON



Happy Birthday to Elizabeth Patterson! She has grown up to be a fine young lady! Wishing her & Anthony all the best on their upcoming wedding!

Michele, Ingersoll ON


Hiya, Folks,
As someone who lives on the southern side of the CanAm border, I am looking forward to a big celebration for our July Fourth Holiday. I am wondering if the Patterson clan and friends, being Canadian, will have any mention of it. Just a thought... Happy Independence Day, everyone!

Lucia, Kalispell MT


Lynn, I just wanted you to know that as a degreed marriage educator, I spotted your comicstrip years ago and have enjoyed every frame! Thank you for making it real, enjoyable, applicable, and endearing! Your Pattersons have been so like a family to me that I have had to check in every day like checking on loved ones. You have created a phenomenon. Congratulations for all your success. Let us know what's next!

Maria-Lisa, Santa Fe NM


The Pattersons and their friends and families might not be real people, but they portray REAL people; that is why FBOFW has lasted so long and been so popular. There is no family on earth without mistakes, who hasn't argued, done something gross, and so on. Who in the world would want to read about a perfect family who does everything right, where nothing bad, silly, disgusting, or out-of-the-ordinary happens? We'd be bored to death after the first week!

Sue, Maryland


Oh gosh! Here we go again with how 'harsh' discipline was 'back in the day' comments just because Michael got in trouble with Elly.

As a substitute teacher, who watches discipline get more and more lax each year in our school systems, it distresses me that 'discipline' is getting such a black eye, yet you turn on the local news, and for the first 10-15 minutes, you hear nothing but murders and crime that happened in the last 24 hours.

It's a shame 'retro discipline' won't come back... maybe all the intense crime will go down because of it!

Tracey B, Denham Springs LA


*sigh* Michael was a bratty kid...I get it. Now can we get back to the storylines at hand?

Jimmy


My all-time favorite FBOFW was many years ago and it was a Sunday strip. Ellie and Elizabeth were out Christmas shopping and passed a cold, wet, miserable-looking sidewalk Santa. Elizabeth tugged on Ellie's arm, whispered something and they brought him a hot drink. I tear up just thinking about it (I am right now). It spoke volumes about the character of Elizabeth and about the true spirit of Christmas and kindness.

Susan T, Tustin CA


Just to wish Elizabeth (or as Michael use to say "Liz Breath") a very happy birthday!

John S, Dundalk MD


Happy Birthday, Elizabeth! I'm wondering, are you gonna show what Therese thinks of Anthony and Elizabeth getting married? I'd like to see that. I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE WEDDING!!!
Wait.
We ARE gonna get to see the wedding before August 30, right? And after the wedding it would be kinda exciting if Liz got pregnant with a little girl.....

Jessie, Trenton ON


Hi Lynn,

I am actually enjoying the old strips. It's a pleasure to see Elly back when she was pretty.

Cheryl L, Forest City NC





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